i was confused what you were saying the first time, read it again and think you're against libertarians? i think i feel the same way but you seem a bit smarter than me(no sarcasm)
i worked with some libertarians at osu they ran a paper and so were very opinionated. they all seemed to not want to help any poor people through taxes or government programs...
all stating they had worked so hard to get where they were and are tired of people getting something for nothing
all were actually pretty priviledged-cars to drive, plenty of food, two parents who loved them and were there for them
they really hadn't worked all that hard... me either. i am not into the libertarian ideal. the guy that started these threads i have not heard from in ages...still here buddy?
been actually thinking about this thread...i am bitter and burnt out somedays too... but i care only more everyday---the kids are innocent!
so zeno you are an anarchist? not trying to give any final word here,,,just putting in some points i think and things i've experienced...